{"id":4100,"date":"2019-08-05T16:57:05","date_gmt":"2019-08-05T16:57:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thejosias.net\/?p=4100"},"modified":"2019-08-05T16:57:14","modified_gmt":"2019-08-05T16:57:14","slug":"the-josias-podcast-episode-xviii-revenge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thejosias.net\/2019\/08\/05\/the-josias-podcast-episode-xviii-revenge\/","title":{"rendered":"The Josias Podcast, Episode XVIII: Revenge"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The Josias Editors discuss punishment and the good of order in a teleological universe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3>Bibliography <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>Thomas Aquinas, <em>Summa Theologiae, <\/em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/dhspriory.org\/thomas\/summa\/SS\/SS060.html#SSQ60OUTP1\" target=\"_blank\">II-II Q. 60<\/a>; <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"II-II Q 64, A 2 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/dhspriory.org\/thomas\/summa\/SS\/SS064.html#SSQ64A2THEP1\" target=\"_blank\">II-II Q 64, A 2<\/a>; <em> <\/em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"II-II Q. 108. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/dhspriory.org\/thomas\/summa\/SS\/SS108.html#SSQ108OUTP1\" target=\"_blank\">II-II Q. 108.<\/a><\/li><li>Plato, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/classics.mit.edu\/Plato\/gorgias.html\">Gorgias<\/a>.<\/em><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Music<\/strong>: &#8220;Bin ich nun frei Wirklich frei,&#8221; <em>Das Rheingold,<\/em> Richard Wagner. Vienna Philharmonic, George Solti, Gustav Neidlinger as Alberich.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Header Image<\/strong>: Alberich, by Arthur Rackham.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you have questions or comments, please send them to editors(at)thejosias.net.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Follow us on&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/The-Josias\/290943131088070\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Facebook<\/a>&nbsp;<em>and<\/em>&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/josias_rex\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Twitter<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Many thanks to our generous supporters on&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/josias\" target=\"_blank\">Patreon,<\/a>&nbsp;who enable us to pay for podcast hosting. If you have not yet joined them, please do so. You can set up a one-time or recurring donation in any amount. Even $1 a month would be splendid.<\/p>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1409\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('audio');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-4100-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/the_josias\/p\/s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com\/podcast.thejosias.net\/retribution-final.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/the_josias\/p\/s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com\/podcast.thejosias.net\/retribution-final.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/the_josias\/p\/s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com\/podcast.thejosias.net\/retribution-final.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/the_josias\/p\/s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com\/podcast.thejosias.net\/retribution-final.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/thejosias.net\/?powerpress_pinw=4100-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/the_josias\/s\/s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com\/podcast.thejosias.net\/retribution-final.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"retribution-final.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/at\/podcast\/the-josias-podcast\/id1292472444?l=en&amp;mt=2&amp;ls=1#episodeGuid=https%3A%2F%2Fthejosias.net%2F%3Fp%3D4100\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_itunes\" title=\"Subscribe on Apple Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribeonandroid.com\/thejosias.net\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_android\" title=\"Subscribe on Android\" rel=\"nofollow\">Android<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly90aGVqb3NpYXMuY29tL2ZlZWQvcG9kY2FzdC8\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_googleplay\" title=\"Subscribe on Google Podcasts\" rel=\"nofollow\">Google Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/thejosias.net\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><!--powerpress_player-->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Josias Editors discuss punishment and the good of order in a teleological universe. Bibliography Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, II-II Q. 60; II-II Q 64, A 2; II-II Q. 108. Plato, Gorgias. Music: &#8220;Bin ich nun frei Wirklich frei,&#8221; Das Rheingold, Richard Wagner. Vienna Philharmonic, George Solti, Gustav Neidlinger as Alberich. Header Image: Alberich, by &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thejosias.net\/2019\/08\/05\/the-josias-podcast-episode-xviii-revenge\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Josias Podcast, Episode XVIII: Revenge&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":4101,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":""},"categories":[4,7,27],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/podcast.thejosias.net\/2018\/463px-Ring11.jpg?fit=463%2C720&ssl=1","jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9yLvQ-148","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":4078,"url":"https:\/\/thejosias.net\/2019\/05\/26\/the-josias-podcast-episode-xvii-empire\/","url_meta":{"origin":4100,"position":0},"title":"The Josias Podcast, Episode XVII: Empire","date":"May 26, 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Does natural law demand a world government? 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